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67 442 03-10-2015 09:21 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
The material that is between the tank and the trunk floor is available.

green crv 03-10-2015 10:59 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Hi Ryan, looks like your having fun, enjoying the pictures. Don't forget to save the valve stem caps, may be original DILL. Just found a few old new ones. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-10-2015 11:08 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Thanks Phil looking forward to getting the assembly manual.

I will check the caps, DILL? Maybe?

Ryan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-10-2015 11:21 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Looked at some fluids today.

Is the silicone Brake fluid a good idea? I understand it resists soaking in water so seems like a good plan as the car will sit for a good portion of the year.Cost three times as much as Lucas Brake Fluid....must be good:-)

Ryan

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Ryan1969Chevelle 03-10-2015 11:28 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Is this the best rear end gear lube? Says it needs no posi additive? Should I add additive to this stuff? Motorcraft or GM?

It also looks to be the right stuff for the Muncie...that would be nice to only keep one on hand:-)

Ryan

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Ryan1969Chevelle 03-10-2015 11:35 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Couldn't find my brake tools, got new ones, just cheap stuff, not professional:-) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...310_174533.jpg

chevyman0429 03-10-2015 11:58 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Ryan
I've been using the exact same brake tools for the last 20 years.

Postsedan 03-11-2015 12:04 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
NO, YOU CANNOT MIX OR ADD....SILICONE BRAKE FLUID.....with Regular Brake Fluid.

Dan

Postsedan 03-11-2015 12:06 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
I do add the additive to the Gear Oil.....regardless.

Dan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-11-2015 12:33 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Thanks guys,

Can I use this oil in the Muncie as well? Says GL-4, GL-5 on the back..?

Ryan

Postsedan 03-11-2015 12:40 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Yep, Lucas Rocks [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-11-2015 01:01 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Thx

Ryan

83hurstguy 03-11-2015 02:30 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Awesome car, looking forward to seeing it at MCACN!

I would advise against silicone brake fluid unless you are just looking for a show queen. The water not absorbing into the brake fluid isn't necessarily a good thing, as the water will then be capable of &quot;flashing&quot; to vapor if the fluid goes over the water's boiling point, which leads to soft pedal. The hygroscopic action of the brake fluid is there to be able to absorb some moisture without affecting braking performance until it becomes oversaturated (and you bleed). On the plus side, silicone brake fluid doesn't eat paint. But that's about the end of the plus sides...

Luke

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-11-2015 07:06 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Good to know!

Definitely not going to be a show car, so I will stay away from si.

Ryan

DW31S 03-11-2015 12:48 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Ryan can you please measure wheels and post oh a doing so. I've seen '69 W-31 cars that were &quot;supposedly&quot; original with different width rims. I don't know if the Canadian destination could be a factor. Soliciting opinions or comments on this. Please take a picture with ruler or tape measure showing the overall width. Thanks in advance.
On another note, my 4-speed guy says not to use synthetic gear lube in Muncies. Seems the oil is too slippery and won't cling to the rotating parts.

69 Post Sedan 03-11-2015 01:23 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Ryan.....I HIGHLY recommend Sta-Lube for your Muncie.

Sta-lube

Kurt

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-12-2015 12:46 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Hi Dave, I will measure the rims but all have tires on so need to reach around them to get a width.

Hi Kurt, your vote is dually noted:-) you really beat on you M23:-)

Ryan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-12-2015 12:58 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Did some more digging tonight!

Found the casting numbers on the rear end, 402227. CFD ?

Ryan

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Ryan1969Chevelle 03-12-2015 01:01 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
I also found the stamp TM just as I suspected! Same as the black/topaz twin to my car:-)


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Ryan1969Chevelle 03-12-2015 01:13 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Cleaned up and found stamps on the transmission as well

Haven't tried to decode them yet

Ryan

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69 Post Sedan 03-12-2015 01:16 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Ryan....that's a 1969 M22.....you lucky dog!

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-12-2015 01:18 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Here are some transmission pictures and a couple floor pan shots

Ryan


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Ryan1969Chevelle 03-12-2015 01:20 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69 Post Sedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ryan....that's a 1969 M22.....you lucky dog! </div></div>

Hmmm, supposed to be an M20.........

Can you type out the codes or post a link?

Ryan

69 Post Sedan 03-12-2015 01:22 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
The letter &quot;C&quot; makes it a M22......if the internal gears haven't been changed.

69 Post Sedan 03-12-2015 01:24 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Muncie Link

69 Post Sedan 03-12-2015 01:26 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
The tag on the side cover has numbers on it. That will be helpful to know what trans you have.

Postsedan 03-12-2015 01:44 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
P= Muncie 4 speed
9= model year
H= August
11= 11th day
C= rock crusher M-22, 10 tooth input, 27 tooth output shaft.

I also knew Ryan would be Whining [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] Very Cool!

Dan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-12-2015 02:10 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Nick Morocco is checking if one of his C cases is closer to my build date;-) Maybe a trade?

Ryan

The tag says 9503 and seems like 13 backwards at the end, my phone died as I cleaned the tag for good pictures:-(

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Ryan1969Chevelle 03-12-2015 02:21 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Is the stamp A38342 part of a VIN from the car it came from? Not enough digits?
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Is A Atlanta? Did this come out of a Chevelle?

Ryan

Postsedan 03-12-2015 02:35 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Nick Morocco is checking if one of his C cases is closer to my build date;-) Maybe a trade
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A Trade.....Nick would be make out on that deal.

Dan

Postsedan 03-12-2015 02:41 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Plus - if you ever do get that dream 1969 Chevelle....you'll be kicking yourself for getting rid of an M22 - I certainly did.

Dan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-12-2015 10:17 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
No intentions of getting rid of anything, just checking if Nick has a closer date M22:-)

Ryan

I will talk to Al today, he was sure the original transmission was in the car but memories can fade. I hope this jogs his memory!

Rixls6 03-12-2015 12:00 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is the stamp A38342 part of a VIN from the car it came from? Not enough digits?
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...2835-image.jpg


Is A Atlanta? Did this come out of a Chevelle?

Ryan </div></div>

See the CT9.........that says it is an over-the-counter replacement trans, and the other number that starts with an A is the production number. Did the first owner have a warranty replacement trans done?

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-12-2015 02:16 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
I will know more after talking to Al:-) Man I love this car:-)

Ryan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-12-2015 09:12 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Well I got him thinking now!! He remembers ordering the HD 4 speed wide ratio, with 2.54 first gear, (I haven't checked that number) and both the bill of sale and GM docs show the M20... Al is thinking this over and will check with a friend that knows about the car. (I forgot to ask but I think he worked at the dealer?)

My assumption would be that he got a warranty transmission when the warranty engine went in..........the extra engine was purchased and installed in the last three years so chances of someone slipping in an M22 from 69 seems unlikely....TBD

Ryan

I will give him a couple days to ponder it:-)

Bob_D 03-12-2015 10:07 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Phil looking forward to getting the assembly manual.

I will check the caps, DILL? Maybe?

Ryan </div></div>

One of the pics was clear enough to see the &quot;DILL&quot; Nice!

Bob_D 03-12-2015 10:18 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I also found the stamp TM just as I suspected! Same as the black/topaz twin to my car:-)


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Ryan, I have a NOS set of Delco Air Shocks to replace the ones you have. Let me know. They're just sitting on the table with nowhere to go. No tubing though, just the shocks.

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-12-2015 10:22 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Let's haggle!!

Can you post a picture of them?

Ryan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-12-2015 10:24 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No intentions of getting rid of anything, just checking if Nick has a closer date M22:-)

Ryan

I will talk to Al today, he was sure the original transmission was in the car but memories can fade. I hope this jogs his memory! </div></div>

Nicks M22 wasn't a closer date than mine, no trade:-(

Bob_D 03-13-2015 03:32 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
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Before I do, check this out. Car in front of me this afternoon, and thought you'd enjoy!

Bob D'


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