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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim Ferron</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXXBlackLs6M22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"The shipper info provides the details of the dealer the car was originally shipped to from the factory"
Lots of owners with fake build sheets will not match this document which will stir many red flags for them [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] </div></div> Sooo [not trying to be a jerk] The guy with the fake build sheet can make a new one with the <span style="font-style: italic">correct</span> dealer info.... Not sure how this new service is really going to change anything if it doesn't have build info , like a PHS report. </div></div> The document has a notory type stamp on a gold leaf type surface embodded on it. I would malso think that the NCRS will keep a record of the letters they sent out,since it would be fairly easy for them to do. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sYc</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think a lot of cars will be "exposed" with this new information. </div></div>
I keep hearing this but do not see why. The way I read the press release the document will not contain build information, just shipping info, such as selling dealer. I doubt it will "expose" a hand full of cars, as except for the few so called "supercars dealers", why would anyone lie about the selling dealer? I do think it is a positive though, as many car enthusiasts are curious where their cars were sold new, and for the supercars, not all dealer records are available, which left the NICB as the only source for such information, which few folks can access. IMO, as this service moves forward, we will see the number of documented supercars increase. Then the only debate will be how was it equipped/modified. </div></div> In my case it has helped. I have a car that has been a race car all it's life. I traced it's ownership history back to 1976 when a guy when a guy from western Maryland supposedly picked up the car in Connecticut. The yellow paint on a New England 70 Camaro pro stocker had me thinking it was maybe the Peavy speed shop car,then another source said the guy picked up the car at SRD race cars in 76. As it turned out,my car was sold new at Hallowell Chevrolet in Easton Maryland which is near Delaware. Talk about something from left field. Now I can look for racers in that area,and it sure as heck is more consistent with the car being worked on at SRD back in 1976. I also have another supercar that I want to get the dealership info on before I pay out money to the supercar shop owner to document it. Unfortunatly the car is a 1973,which they don't have the records for. |
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I received my NCRS reports today and am very pleased. I have two original numbers matching, documented cars, a 69 HO X77D80 Z/28 (Wilkins Chevrolet, Norfolk, Va. and a 66 SS396 California smog 4sp Chevelle, black with red bucket interior (Gustafson Chevrolet, Eureka Ca.) Everything matched perfectly with my original owner docs, POP, build dates etc. Thanks to Roy and the NCRS.
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alot of bogus protect- o plates and order forms were made up in the 90s-2000s, and alot of them didnt know the original dealers. Now with the ncrs shipper is will shine the light on those cars or send them scrambling for new fake documents.
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The Gustafson newspaper ads are available on Newspaperarchive.com I know they go back to at least 69 maybe some 68's. Didn't look at earlier ones
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Gustafson newspaper ads are available on Newspaperarchive.com I know they go back to at least 69 maybe some 68's. Didn't look at earlier ones </div></div>
Thank you for that info! I will start digging. |
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Has anyone heard of Hudiburg Chevrolet?
Code 428 zone 23. Midwest City OK That is where my chevelle is from. Thanks |
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I just googled and it looks like they are still around.
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Anybody have any info on Wilson Chevrolet in Morgantown, WV? Googled them and found nothing. Are they in business under another name maybe.
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Well I got my 4 NCRS Reports today missing dealer info on 3 of them. I hope I can get from the SYC guys!
1) NCRS - Dealer code 0 in zone 10. My POP Burman Chevrolet Co. 158 N.3rd Laramie, Wyoming 2) NCRS - Dealer code 45 in zone 26. My Original sales agreement, trade-in paperwork and misc. show O.B. Edmonds 9144 5th Avenue Jacksonville, Florida 3) NCRS - Dealer code 465 in zone 20. I have no paperwork on this car 4) NCRS - Dealer code 46 in zone 12. Dealer was Berglund Chevrolet Inc. in Jamestown, New York. This matches my POP! Thanks in advance! Dave |
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what number are they up to??
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...05-12213-2.jpg </div></div> PM sent on the Capitol one. |
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Dave...your message box is full...wanted to touch base on the dealer emblems.
thanks..tom Williams |
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I believe anytime there is a zero for dealer, that car went to a zone office. then later sold through a dealer.
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I was #676, just got mine in the mail today.
I always thought my car was from Grand Forks ND. But it was originally shipped to Hallman Chevrolet, Inc. in Reno, NV (Even though my NCRS letter says Reno, NE) Im sure its Reno Nevada not Nebraska LOS car 11A says its production date was 11/14/68. Anyone heard of this dealer or have anything on them? |
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Need to know:
'67 Camaro built 6/13/67: Zone 61, Dealer Code 657 '69 Nova built 2/7/69: Zone 49, Dealer Code 497 The '70 Z28 came back as Keyser Inc, Lansdale, PA! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] |
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Got 3 back today:
1 - Dealer code 168 in zone 28 = Ewing Chevrolet 2 - Dealer code 282 in zone 45 = Nischan-Spalding Inc. 3 - Dealer code 898 in zone 13 = Yenko Chevrolet Interesting that #1 was built the day before #2! No surprises, but good stuff for the file. Thanks Roy & NCRS |
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Is anyone able to decipher the dealer info on my Camaro and Nova????
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My 1969 SS350 Nova is a California original car as the prior owner claimed. The original delivery dealer code was 312 in zone 20. Mel Bunnell in Pomona California. Neat info and thank you NCRS. My build sheet is real hard to read so this is a big help.
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Got mine today and I'm #792.
Build date 12-9-68 Dealer code 125 Zone 20 Delivered to Connell Chevrolet in Costa Mesa CA (who is still in business) Does someone know anybody who works there? THANKS Roy!! |
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Hey Mark,
I sent you a private message. One of my cars came back with a Dealer code 465 and zone 20 which appears to be in Ca. Do you where I can get the dealer codes as I know some of the SYC guys seem to have that info? Thanks, Dave |
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Got my Black Bear (AKA 66 SS L-78) letter today! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]
Born and Raised in Atlanta, GA Sold via the "John Smith Co." Atlanta GA. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...2335-image.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...2336-image.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...2337-image.jpg <span style="font-size: 23pt">http://youtu.be/l2OdMqRkmyc</span> |
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..... Nice chevelle ..... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif[/img] |
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Wow that's one sharp 66. My all time favorite year!
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got mine for the COPO yesterday..confirms my buildsheets, dealer 49, zone 12, Joe Bookman chevy Buffalo NY. Interesting though, the NCRS had no dealer name available? I knew what 49-12 was ahead of time...car was built 7-11-69.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DannyLCMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody have any info on Wilson Chevrolet in Morgantown, WV? Googled them and found nothing. Are they in business under another name maybe. </div></div>
I may have a pic of a Dealer sticker from there. I was finding stuff from that dealer back in the 80's,thought my Camaro was close to there at one time...... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img] BIG |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Need to know:
'67 Camaro built 6/13/67: Zone 61, Dealer Code 657 '69 Nova built 2/7/69: Zone 49, Dealer Code 497 The '70 Z28 came back as Keyser Inc, Lansdale, PA! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]</div></div> 49-497 is Sausman Chevrolet 717 Market St. Lemoyne PA 61-657 don't have in my list, but it is somewhere in Wisconsin |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Z28DL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Mark,
I sent you a private message. One of my cars came back with a Dealer code 465 and zone 20 which appears to be in Ca. Do you where I can get the dealer codes as I know some of the SYC guys seem to have that info? Thanks, Dave </div></div> From the NCRS website Zone Dealer Number Dealer Name Address City State Zipcode Source Year Active Notes 20 465 Unknown Unknown brea California Unknown 1969 Unknown looking for the name and address of this dealer THANKS 20 465 Daogherty 146 s Brea st Brea California Unknown 1960 Changed Name This Dealer was sold & became Security Chevrolet 20 465 Security Chev 146 S. Brea Brea California Unknown 1966 Changed Name Trying to discover the history of this dealership after 1966. Believed to have become maybe "Guardian" or "Michael's" Thanks 20 465 Security Chev 146 S Brea st. Brea California Unknown 1965 No longer in Busines This Dealer was only in business for 3 or 4 years, It may have been owned by Selman of Orange County. From approx 1952 to 1962 this Dealers original. name was Daogherty Chevrolet |
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Thanks Dana,
I did find a post from another site from years ago that noted that he bought his 69 Z/28 new from Guardian. I tried to check out some old newspaper ads from that area and time period but ran out of steam last night. At least I know it's a Ca. car from Brea. That's a 100% more than I knew 2 days ago. Thanks again, Dave |
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Thanks Steve. The NCRS website lists Sausman as 49 - 496. I always thought that this car was from Sunderland, which is what Sausman became in / around 1969. While the NCRS site does not have Sunderland, I know that in 1978 they were 49 - 580 (per a build sheet I found online last night for a '78 Anniv Vette).
So, now I don't know where the car was from, and what I thought was a Sunderland sold car - now appears not... Feel like I just took a big step backwards. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif[/img] I'm at an even bigger loss on the '67 Camaro.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img] |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427freak</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Z28DL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Mark,
I sent you a private message. One of my cars came back with a Dealer code 465 and zone 20 which appears to be in Ca. Do you where I can get the dealer codes as I know some of the SYC guys seem to have that info? Thanks, Dave </div></div> From the NCRS website Zone Dealer Number Dealer Name Address City State Zipcode Source Year Active Notes 20 465 Unknown Unknown brea California Unknown 1969 Unknown looking for the name and address of this dealer THANKS 20 465 Daogherty 146 s Brea st Brea California Unknown 1960 Changed Name This Dealer was sold & became Security Chevrolet 20 465 Security Chev 146 S. Brea Brea California Unknown 1966 Changed Name Trying to discover the history of this dealership after 1966. Believed to have become maybe "Guardian" or "Michael's" Thanks 20 465 Security Chev 146 S Brea st. Brea California Unknown 1965 No longer in Busines This Dealer was only in business for 3 or 4 years, It may have been owned by Selman of Orange County. From approx 1952 to 1962 this Dealers original. name was Daogherty Chevrolet </div></div>The Brea CA 1969 phone book lists that address as House Of Imports Inc (Kenneth Rivera Mgrl 146 S Brea BI |
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Here's the local Chevy dealer in 69
GUARDIAN CHEVROLET 800 S Brea BI , 529-4981 |
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Pony Express finally arrived in Canada. Received my document for order #236. Mine is shown as Zone 8, dealer 199.
Receiving dealer was Dunlap Chevrolet of Macon, Georgia. This confirms what my research had obtained many years ago. Actual assembly date was March 14, 1969 (Friday) which coincides with my trim tag build date of 03B. Dunlap Chevrolet was taken over by Youmans Chevrolet in the early 1980’s. In 2005 I talked to one of the original Dunlap family members. He was very gracious in sending me some pictures, dealer stickers and an old license plate. Way back “in the day” they were actually an auto manufacturing company under the name of Dunlap-Huckabee. One of the pictures below is the assembly plant. This document is a nice piece to have. Thanks Roy. http://www.pbase.com/don_lightfoot/image/155737173.jpg http://www.pbase.com/don_lightfoot/image/155737174.jpg http://www.pbase.com/don_lightfoot/image/155737175.jpg http://www.pbase.com/don_lightfoot/image/155737176.jpg |
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Without going back and searching 40 pages, is there a time frame for this information as far as how far they go back to ???
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FWIW, here's the build sheet for a '78 AnniVette from Sunderland showing zone 49, dealer 580
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h6...psb915d2c2.jpg |
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Got the info yesterday for the 1966 327 Chevy II below and the 1969 L-78 Nova we bought from Duceless. The Chevy II was ordered by Star Chevrolet Co Inc, East Orange, NJ. Dealer code 301 in zone 35. The Nova was ordered by Havre Motor Corp, Ravenna, OH. Dealer code 245 in zone 28. It was expected that the ordering dealers were from New Jersey and Ohio. |
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Website says 1965-1972 Nova, Chevelle and Camaro.
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Damn. I just received an email that they found no records on my 9N7091XX 69 Camaro. oh well... they tried.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 68l30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DannyLCMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody have any info on Wilson Chevrolet in Morgantown, WV? Googled them and found nothing. Are they in business under another name maybe. </div></div>
I may have a pic of a Dealer sticker from there. I was finding stuff from that dealer back in the 80's,thought my Camaro was close to there at one time...... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img] BIG </div></div> Sticker...from 1971 |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 68ys8030</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Damn. I just received an email that they found no records on my 9N7091XX 69 Camaro. oh well... they tried. </div></div>
Give us a few weeks and retry your VIN, we are having those records researched again as we think we might have missed some of them in the first research. |
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