Re: Musclecar Dealers & Low Production Factory Freaks
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not sure why a Six Pack Bee would be considered a freak.

Now, a 440 Magnum Bee? THAT's a FREAK! </div></div>

Why would the 440 Magnum be any more or less of a freak than the 6-pack? 26 440 Magnums were built and 30 6 Pack 4spd Bee's were built. I would say thats apples to apples. </div></div>

Wouldn't the difference be that the Six Pack was &quot;officially&quot; available, the four barrel engine was not? </div></div>

http://www.glenwood76.com/Coronet_Pr...65_76.htm#1971

5 motors available on the 71 bee.

Re: Musclecar Dealers & Low Production Factory Freaks
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not sure why a Six Pack Bee would be considered a freak.
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Because it's a 1972. Official production of the Six Pack/Six Barrel engines ended in 71. But Chrysler initially advertised the motor as available in the 72 model year but then killed it prior to official release, though several early pilot, preproduction cars made it out of the gates and into private hands. </div></div>

I think he was referring to a 71 Bee, Steve. </div></div>

Half the time I have a hard time figuring out what I am referring to, let alone anyone else. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

Re: Musclecar Dealers & Low Production Factory Freaks
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Half the time I have a hard time figuring out what I am referring to, let alone anyone else. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img] </div></div>

I feel the same about myself yet you've always made perfect sense to me Steve?!.

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~ Pete

Re: Musclecar Dealers & Low Production Factory Freaks
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Why would the 440 Magnum be any more or less of a freak than the 6-pack? 26 440 Magnums were built and 30 6 Pack 4spd Bee's were built. I would say thats apples to apples. </div></div>

Well, first of all you're using US-spec numbers, which don't include Canadian and export numbers, so I don't know how even the production numbers are.

However, the 440 Magnum was not supposed to be available on the Bee. This is pretty consistent in the life of both the Road Runner and the Super Bee from 1968-70. The '71 Bee with the 440 Magnum is an anomaly for some reason.

To answer Steve, I did mean the '72 - I just don't consider it a freak because it was a production car. The fact that the option was cancelled early-on doesn't make it a freak to me, but I can understand why someone else thinks it's a freak.

Here's some interesting trivia: The '72 Six Pack was not available with a 4-speed!

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Splitting hairs thinking the 72 is not a factory freak. To me it falls into the same catagory as the 71 Challenger TA. Advertised but not really available to the public.

IMO the 72 6 Pack Bee's and 6brl RR's are definately factory freaks.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=69hurstSC]
The '71 Bee with the 440 Magnum is an anomaly for some reason.
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I would assume this means you concede the fact that a 71 440-4 Bee is no more a factory freak than the 71 440-6 Bee?

Re: Musclecar Dealers & Low Production Factory Freaks
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Splitting hairs thinking the 72 is not a factory freak. To me it falls into the same catagory as the 71 Challenger TA. Advertised but not really available to the public.
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The Six Packs were built. The T/As were not. Hence, I don't see them in the same vein.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would assume this means you concede the fact that a 71 440-4 Bee is no more a factory freak than the 71 440-6 Bee?</div></div>

No, because the 440 Magnum wasn't supposed to be available on the Bee, while the Six Pack was. That's why the 26+ cars are anomalies.

Re: Musclecar Dealers & Low Production Factory Freaks
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The Six Packs were built. The T/As were not. Hence, I don't see them in the same vein.
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As Steve pointed out the 72 6pack cars were not built for consumer consumption. So yes, I would put these cars in the same vein as the promotional pictures of the 71 TA Challenger.

http://i52.tinypic.com/atkjdy.jpg

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How could they not be built for consumer consumption when they were released by the factory?

The T/A is a car that was never built. The Six Pack was.

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Pilot cars are not the same as factory production. Maybe your confused, were talking about 72 Chargers not 71.