Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates
 

This is my third week of November 1967 built 68 car. It may be possible that a VZ plate was issued very early in 68 but likely as stated above W for 68.

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Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates
 

Here's a couple more:

VYV 007 124678L314967 11D body date (68 SS 396 Camaro Conv)

YIP 023 124379L511982 12A body date (69 Z/28)

Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates
 

03C ZUZ 433 124379L527246

04C YZU 128 124379L529646

Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates
 

Remember, this is just to approach possible lineage.
Not to be exact, of course.


Updated :
California Black Plates

VNK 123 ... March/April 1968
VXE 716 ... 10/xx/67
VYV 007 ... 11/xx/67

XFM 863 ... 12A build 12/19/68 SOLD, 124379L511946
XJZ 951 ... Late 1968
XMG 755 ... 10C VN built, sold 11/30/68
XOL 721 ... 09A 124379L500xxx
XON 123 ... May 2, 1968
XRK 691 ... OJ 1969 Camaro
XTY 659 ... 12-06-1968 Sold, 124379L510865

YAB 739 ... 11D 124379L503396
YIP 023 ... 12A 124379L511982
YMP 718 ... 124379L500578
YOW 597 ... 12/23/68, 124379Lxxxx
YXB 405 ... 4/4/69
YZN 712 ... 4/xx/69
YZU 123 ... 04B built, sold 6-6-69
YZU 128 ... 04C 124379L529646

ZQY 367 ... 9/15/69
ZUZ 433 ... 03C 124379L527246
ZVM 073 ... 7/xx/69
ZVX 549 ... 10/9/69
ZZA 219 ... 5/01/70 (?)

Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates
 

Here's the earliest LA built 69 Camaro I've had... don't know when it was originally sold.

YIA 052 124379L500471 08E body date

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Based on the list including only date of sale cars you can fine tune the chronology.



XFM 863 ... 12A build 12/19/68 SOLD, 124379L511946

XMG 755 ... 10C VN built, sold 11/30/68
XON 123 ... May 2, 1968
XTY 659 ... 12-06-1968 Sold, 124379L510865


YOW 597 ... 12/23/68, 124379Lxxxx
YXB 405 ... 4/4/69
YZN 712 ... 4/xx/69
* YZU 123 ... 04B built, sold 6-6-69

* From this very late Y suffix you could guesstimate the Z intro was July..




ZQY 367 ... 9/15/69

ZVM 073 ... 7/xx/69
ZVX 549 ... 10/9/69
* ZZA 219 ... 5/01/70 (?)

* This last one is very near the end run,but with Joe's Nova being ZVM and sold 7/69, 5/70 seems out of order- unless it was a plate issued from a branch for a lost or stolen replacement.. local offices held older stock for months later. Whether or not DMV went all the way to ZZZ 999 with blues already well into circulation is open for debate. I know when the state did the wholesale switch from yellow to black in 62 i'm fairly certain there weren't any Z suffix yellow base issued- they stopped at Y. JMHO

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* This last one is very near the end run,but with Joe's Nova being ZVM and sold 7/69, 5/70 seems out of order- unless it was a plate issued from a branch for a lost or stolen replacement.

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Hey Mark, I listed when I took possession of the car. I actually ordered it in May of '69. Does that make a difference?? I can go find the actual registration cards if I have to!! Don't want to mess this whole thing up with mis-information.
Joe C.

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Hi Joe, your good- only counts when the dealer put those temp paper tags on her;)
Personally I think as long as you have the correct year reg tag for your car, they are so clueless as to sequence you could walk in to 75% of branch offices and assign a pair of ABC 123 series plates on a 69 and they would not know the diff. We are far more passionate than them and all Arnie cares is that the program generates revenue!

Of course it floods the shows with black plates,but white base reflectorized are just wrong on these. At least we both have the satisfaction of knowing ours are original to the car!
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Here's the earliest LA built 69 Camaro I've had... don't know when it was originally sold.

YIA 052 124379L500471 08E body date

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Updated :

California Black Plates

VNK 123 ... March/April 1968
VXE 716 ... 10/xx/67
VYV 007 ... 11/xx/67
XFM 863 ... 12A build 12/19/68 SOLD, 124379L511946
XJZ 951 ... Late 1968
XMG 755 ... 10C VN built, sold 11/30/68
XOL 721 ... 09A 124379L500xxx
XON 123 ... May 2, 1968
XRK 691 ... OJ 1969 Camaro
XTY 659 ... 12-06-1968 Sold, 124379L510865


YAB 739 ... 11D 124379L503396
YIA 052 ... 08E 124379L500471
YIP 023 ... 12A 124379L511982
YMP 718 ... 124379L500578
YOW 597 ... 12/23/68, 124379Lxxxx
YXB 405 ... 4/4/69
YZN 712 ... 4/xx/69
YZU 123 ... 04B built, sold 6-6-69
YZU 128 ... 04C 124379L529646



ZQY 367 ... 9/15/69
ZUZ 433 ... 03C 124379L527246
ZVM 073 ... 7/xx/69
ZVX 549 ... 10/9/69
ZZA 219 ... 5/01/70 (?)

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Based on the list including only date of sale cars you can fine tune the chronology?


YOW 597 ... 12/23/68, 124379Lxxxx
YXB 405 ... 4/4/69
YZN 712 ... 4/xx/69
* YZU 123 ... 04B built, sold 6-6-69

* From this very late Y suffix you could guesstimate the Z intro was July..




ZQY 367 ... 9/15/69

ZVM 073 ... 7/xx/69
ZVX 549 ... 10/9/69
* ZZA 219 ... 5/01/70 (?)

* This last one is very near the end run,but with Joe's Nova being ZVM and sold 7/69, 5/70 seems out of order- unless it was a plate issued from a branch for a lost or stolen replacement.. local offices held older stock for months later. Whether or not DMV went all the way to ZZZ 999 with blues already well into circulation is open for debate. I know when the state did the wholesale switch from yellow to black in 62 i'm fairly certain there weren't any Z suffix yellow base issued- they stopped at Y. JMHO

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"Based on the list including only date of sale cars you can fine tune the chronology?"

I am just using what is supplied here.

This is a start.

Dont try to be too exact here until more info can be submitted.

Many of us have been watching these plates for years.

I have several sets to use or sell that could suffice 1969 needs in the may on area.

While not knowing all criteria needed to establish more precise results,
this list should be added to to attempt to support some sort of use;
whether it be your original car or one you would like to come close with.

Many of us dreamt the day California would allow us to use our BLACK plates for such assignments.

So, now is the time and here we are.

Lets try to build more submissions here to create a better and more broad list to use."



"* This last one is very near the end run,but with Joe's Nova being ZVM and sold 7/69, 5/70 seems out of order- unless it was a plate issued from a branch for a lost or stolen replacement..
local offices held older stock for months later.
Whether or not DMV went all the way to ZZZ 999 with blues already well into circulation is open for debate.
I know when the state did the wholesale switch from yellow to black in 62 i'm fairly certain there weren't any Z suffix yellow base issued- they stopped at Y. JMHO"

I will tell you that that so far that a 5/70 is not acceptable for a Z plate.

My Camaro, as a 1969 March build, was a 000 AAA BLUE plate in early 1970.

So, dont concern yourself in thinking that this is an exact list.

Let this play out some over a short period of time so as more people can submit more info towards the list.
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